lady_kishiria: (Books)
[ profile] desert_vixen, you have got to read this one. I gave it four stars instead of five for the very eighth-grade writing style. This is the harrowing autobiography of a woman who grew up in the Colorado City, AZ FLDS cult that Warren Jeffs later had moved down to Texas. Carolyn was a rare and gifted exception to the FLDS rule in that while she was married to a man 32 years her senior as a fourth wife, she was allowed to go to college to become a schoolteacher. This enabled her to have enough knowledge of the world to round up her eight children and flee into the night. Most of this is the story of her life as a plural wife, which was filled with emotional and mental abuse. (Her husband, who is now head of the Yearning for Zion cult, took a holier than thou attitude about never having hit her.) Both depressing and fascinating, this is a window into a world that is incredible to think actually exists.
lady_kishiria: (dreams)
I've been having weird-ass dreams these past two nights, probably because I'm sleeping in a really warm room away from home. Last night, I had this dream that had two intertwined storylines, but I'm not sure if they were the same one, or one with the memory of the other or what.

Storyline 1 was way cool. Aleister Crowley lived near me, in a grotto accessed by long twisty narrow tunnels that looked like a rabbit warren. Other people used the warren, but few went all the way down to where he lived. I did, and he wanted to initiate me into the fourth degree. The first three degrees were fairly easy initiations, but the fourth involved being ritually naked in front of the other members of the religious group, wrapped with narrow chains and a weighted amulet of sorts hanging from one's genitals. I know I didn't initially want to go through with this, but eventually decided I was being stupid and that I would.

Aboveground, a whole bunch of patriarchal Christian groups were having a convention. People who were previously sane were signing onto this lifestyle, dressing in "Little House on the Prairie" fashion, promising to have lots of kids and homeschool them all. My parents were approving of this, though not actually members. The convention had attendees selling clothes and crafts, many of which were pretty interesting, but which I resisted buying. I told my mom I was an atheist, even though I knew this wasn't exactly true seeing as I was going to let Aleister Crowley initiate me.
lady_kishiria: (Urge to kill)
An OB/GYN posts her thoughts on the preemie Duggar and Jim-Boob and Jichelle's statement about being open to more:

That's right, Duggars. It was God's plan that your baby live while others without the same advantages (and built-in nursing staff) survive. Because you're just THAT fucking special.
lady_kishiria: (Kishiria)
From a bulletin board entitled "A Quiverful of Snark". I know you already can't resist, DV.

You'll particularly like this topic, where the ladies get sarcastic on the "Rebelution Survey":

In other news, [profile] americanstd and I are going to start a private wiki on refurnishing the house, so we can make joint decisions on furniture and its placement while I'm away. I found a *small* wooden table at Ikea that has drawers built into it. This makes too much sense.

We also had dinner at Khyber Pass. All four of us (we were joined by [personal profile] valdelane and [personal profile] zare_k) had lamb cooked in various ways, and [profile] americanstd fell in love with their pistachio pudding.
lady_kishiria: (Kishiria)
[personal profile] miafeliz commented in my last Christian Taliban entry that the modesty movement drives her up a wall. So this link is "A Week In Feminine Dress" from

Did you know that quasi-Edwardian clothes are required for salvation, and for keeping boys chaste? Inner burqa, ahoy.

But wait, it gets horribler. Look at the clothes these girls are wearing. At first I didn't think it was odd; they are practicing for a dance recital and those Little House on the Prairie get-ups are their costumes, right?

Wrong! Those are their EVERYDAY CLOTHES.

This blog is creepy because it's a self-imposed world where males and females are kept separate, females are shoved firmly into gender roles of being pretty and staying at home and doing feminine things like dancing and interacting with nature only as far as taking quiet walks in the rain with a male relative while saying the Rosary. It's worse that they are held responsible for the cleanliness of boys' thoughts, a scenario a friend of mine once called "being your penis's babysitter".

But at least Lily isn't at all cruel. That's my job, but Colleen Hammond has me beat in the mean-spiritedness department:

Colleen loves to be pious and holy, but she's a right bitch. I try feebly towards being a bitch, but I'm an admitted agnostic, so it's rather pathetic really.
lady_kishiria: (Kishiria)
Or even those of us who aren't much persuaded anymore:

Behold, a Catholic conservative feminist who says that "It's easier to tell someone to 'Put on a skirt!' than 'Put on Christ'." She looks at disturbing trends such as the "modesty movement" and the way it starts to become an "inner burqa". She likes Sarah Palin but I'm willing to forgive her that, especially even though Mooseburger Mama is a dunce full of animal cunning, she *is* a governor with what Camille Paglia describes as the physical strength of an Amazon warrior.

I need to sic her on lily-maiden and Colleen Hammond.

Go over and give her some love.
lady_kishiria: (Kishiria)
Today I'm wearing an ankle length denim skirt. You know what? It's dang comfy. I can run for the bus in it and everything. You know what's the only thing I don't like about it?

It makes me look like one of those Christian modesty/femininity ladies.

I've been ranting on and off about how these ladies are crackpots, but never come up with a seamless explanation for why they drive me up a wall as much as they do. A large part of it of course is how THEY live this way and demand we must ALL live this way. Then they complain about straw-woman feminists who they allege want to practically make being a homemaker or wearing a dress illegal. They're too dumb and brainwashed to realize that they're doing the exact same thing, but on the right not on the left.

Next comes the "perpetual child" side of things. Even though I have renounced and denounced Candy of, I cannot fault her when it comes to saying, "Look, we can't use our femininity to make excuses for being weak or ruled by emotion." She's a nut otherwise, but she does have it correct there. On the other hand we have Colleen Hammond at saying things like, "It's sure complicated being a woman. It must be all those hormones." Then she goes on to say that women shouldn't play sports (muscles are not attractive), wear pants (those are male garments), work outside the home, or anything that would give a woman a place in the world as anything but a perpetual minor.

Finally there's who earned my ire in her next-to-latest post by saying that my rough language compromised her g-rated blog. (For the record I said "boob".) She's 20, home-schooled, still lives with mom and dad, doesn't have a paying job beyond giving violin lessons, and dresses in this weird Little House on the Prairie style--except that Ma Ingalls and the girls dressed to be able to work outside. Claire and her sisters go on camping trips with their family and sit patiently at the campsite while "the boys" do all the hiking and rock climbing. Mustn't be unfeminine, you know! Her whole blog is a freak show; no self-respecting dude is going to show any interest once it's clear she's not allowed to date. She won't meet a husband in college because college "isn't in the Lord's plans for her". I do wonder what will happen when her parents die and she's left with no skills, experience, or idea on how to function in the real world. And I thought *I* was raised like a veal!

Claire's clothes (she does a series of photos of how she dresses) brings me to my last point which is on how all these ladies idealize a past that never was. Notice how many of them feature pictures of Victorian or Edwardian ladies doing leisurely things like reading, gardening and sewing. They think this illustrates how things used to be in a more genteel time.

What are they smoking? Only a miniscule number of women ever lived like that! The rest were working on farms or in factories, owning perhaps two dresses, labouring away 12 hour days, six days a week! Sitting around being a pretty lady was a distant fantasy, since few would actually own a book or a garden.

They say they feel sorry for women like me. I say to them, grow up.

Femininity is a ROLE. It's a role that some play more comfortably than others; I am not very comfortable with it but I'll put it on for fun once in a while. I think the world would be boring if all women were clones of me--something I wish the Christian Ladies would learn to be able to say.
lady_kishiria: (Default)
A while ago I posted about Candy Brauer, who runs . I mentioned that I liked her despite her biblical fundamentalism because of her great recipes, interest in natural foods and libertarian outlook.

However, I've been losing my fondness for her. Recently she's been more about the anti-Catholicism than anything else, and it's just dreary because she doesn't want to hear any teaching explained or myth disproved. She's also over the moon that her husband POSTS ON FORUMS for Bill O'Reilly's and Sean Hannity's shows. I mean WOW! Posting on forums! I'm so wildly impressed.

Behold! A challenger appears!

While this Catholic housewife isn't anti-Candy per se, she's putting a lot of time and effort into a site dedicated to daily rebuttals of Candy's Jack Chick-fueled diatribes. She says that there are blogs for the same organizational and dietary things that Candy promotes but without the annoying anti-Catholicism. I'll check them out because while Candy's got my teeth hurting, that recipe for banana cake with sweet yogurt frosting looks awful tasty.
lady_kishiria: (horrors!)
And those wacky Duggars are at it again. Michelle is knocked up with #18.

For those playing at home, current baby is 9 months old. Michelle cuts breast-feeding off early so she can conceive again. As soon as she whelps, she'll pass Baby #17 to an older child to raise. Yeah, there's some great parenting for ya.
lady_kishiria: (Default)
[personal profile] garpu, do you know this blog?

She is a conservative Catholic who swears like we do and hates Colleen Hammond and the other "Katholik sharia" types.
lady_kishiria: (Kishiria)
What to do on a day when I'm depressed than to get my juices going with some good old CHRISTIAN TALIBAN!

It's always more fun to rile up [profile] desert_vixen while I'm at it. Here's a good one (and it's short):

We're such dirty sluts.
lady_kishiria: (Kishiria)

The blogger asks the question on everybody's mind, "Why do these crazy women want to take over the country just because they want to be [BDSM] bottoms?"

And I still think their men should run screaming. How many jobs do they need to take on to pay for as many babies as will drop out of their wives' worn-out panochas? And you know those panochas are the only ones they're gonna get because they're too strapped to hire prostitutes.

Plus, as I said to [profile] electorprince, since exercise is unfeminine, and hard to do in layers and layers of fabric, what kind of beauty must one of these women have after kid #4? If you recall my whole "lotus birth" kick a while back, there was a photo essay about it. The Prairie Muffin in that was a Mormon living the lifestyle. Take a look at her. That's what these guys have to look forward to.

About 7 years ago, there was a woman who started a small movement called the Surrendered Wife movement. It wasn't religious per se, but it was based on the idea of the wife being submissive to her husband in the name of peace in the home. There were two fundamental flaws with it.

1. It assumed there was no middle ground between being a doormat and being a shrew.

2. It was heavily based on deceit. The classic example of good surrendered behaviour was letting your husband take the wrong exit off the freeway even though you know it's wrong because you must not make him feel stupid by telling him so. Apparently it's better to keep silent and let him get lost and frustrated.

All of this is based on refusing to see middle ground. I make cracks about being dressed like a whore because according to the PM lifestyle I am, when I'm wearing knee-length shorts and a t-shirt because it's 90 degrees outside. In their demented minds, there is no middle ground between being a college girl walking around in her underwear (no kidding, I actually read that) and wearing one of their big denim Taliban-approved jumper dresses.

So, who do I think is a good Christian wife?

This lovely lady is Katarina von Bora, wife of Martin Luther. Isn't she formidable? She'd have taken a whip to these PMs. Sure, she adored Martin and had a lot of kids, but at the same time, she was his business manager (she handled publication of all his books), ran a brewery, took care of the finances (she would hide money from him because otherwise he'd give it to the poor at times when they WERE the poor) and still found time to theologize with him when he was stuck on a problem.

Their courtship was funny too. She was a former nun, a noblewoman obviously, who was set to marry Martin's friend Phillip Melancthon. Still, she'd set her sights on Luther himself, and once she did that, get the hell out of the way. He didn't stand a chance.

Oy vey...I need a job, and not just for money. I am bored and my brain is on overdrive. I'm stopping now before I go into my rant against Womens' Studies programs and an essay on "Man As Head of Household As Dangerous Path to the Gnostic Heresy."

You may all de-friendlist me now. :P
lady_kishiria: (Kishiria)
[personal profile] patgund clued me in to a movement called "Prairie Muffins". I'll leave you to Google them because there's some pretty amusing feminist parodies and MST3Ks of them. These are women with the "Marylike Modesty" thing going, but they're Evangelicals.

A look at the website hosting their manifesto pretty much summarizes their life as being a quiet stay-at-home mama who accepts as many babies as God will "give" them, who don't believe in women having the vote, and who decry such firebrands as Louisa May Alcott and Laura Ingalls Wilder as being bad examples of womanhood for young girls. Jo after all wanted education and Laura Ingalls and her Ma had to work like absolute dogs on their homestead because Pa was away half the year making money and Mary was blind.

For a Catholic view, check out this chick's creepy blog: To cut STRAIGHT to the chase, look at the entry on "The Western Media is At It Again."

Ready? No, you don't need the smelling salts because you're not hallucinating. She just PRAISED the way women live in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Made me die more than a little inside, too.

Make sure to go to her homepage (just remove "blogspot" and check out her essays on why women should not play sports (short answer--it's not attractive, whatever THAT means), and of course the ever-popular modesty thing.

However, one essay of hers gave me the in, the missing puzzle piece, the password, to what's going on with these movements. In it, Mrs Hammond admits throwing her hands up in frustration and telling her husband to do the household finances from now on.

Let me paint the picture. Mr. Hammond works, supporting a wife and a larger-than-normal family. Mrs Hammond breeds of course, but she also writes books, goes on speaking engagements, and otherwise puts the lie to the lifestyle she claims to espouse. Now she is able to foist another responsibility onto her husband while she does whatever she wants to do, namely, her best to impose her lifestyle on other women.

Similarly, the Prairie Muffins seem to do little but reproduce and clean house. No thought or responsibility involved. Heck, they want to get rid of as much responsiblity as possible, claiming it's against what it is to be female.

As I said to Steve, what a scam! These husbands should steer these freeloading heifers to the curb.

I really like how these self-created cows condemn women who won't buy into their line of bullshit with words of pity. "Oh you poor thing, you've given up your femininity and True Womanhood in search of the American Nightmare." Well, I guess so. Go ahead and pity me for my willingness to be an adult, to pull my own weight in the life partnership, to look a little rough around the edges while I defend YOUR freedom to stay childish and worthless.

Cause when your husbands do wake up and you find yourself abandoned in a house you can't pay for with ten kids you suddenly need to feed, you are going to wish you had my life.

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