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[lady_kishiria]

Ahmadinejad just wants to make things better and better, doesn't he?

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/01/15/iran-holocaust-060115.html

Word to Iran: You better recall this jerkoff and fast. You were doing so well with the secularization and your inhouse pseudo-McDonalds. Don't ruin all that NOW!

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[youngfreud.livejournal.com]

Actually, they were doing so well with the secularization and the pseudo-McDonalds until Dubya brought the U.S. Army next door. The sole reason why Ahmadinejad got elected over Rafsanjani was because of the invasion of Iraq and that it tapped into the primal fear of post-revolutionary Iran: the return of American subjucation and the return of the monarchists. Even the liberal elements that promoted westernization want to keep the Americans out. They want it on their terms not the new colonialism that masquerades as "westernization".

Don't get me wrong. I don't like the guy. I rather have gotten Rafsanjani, but I also would've rather gotten John Kerry. He's got as much chance of getting impeached or recalled as the Chimp did after 9/11.

Hey, look Michelle Bachelet of the Socialist Party just got elected as President of Chile.

[adeodatus.livejournal.com]

Its kind of hard for me to find anything nice to say about that country that doesn't date back at least 1500 years. I'm so not a fan of their politics and sadly this is nothing new for them.

From my friends that have come back from Iraq it seems we are already fighting far too many Iranians as they jump the boarder to fight the great Satan.

[kishiriadgr.livejournal.com]

And as Youngfreud pointed out above, whose fault is that?

If you've been reading my LJ for any length you'll know I'm no Bush fan.

[adeodatus.livejournal.com]

I can't really hold the current admin responsible for this. Iran has been going down this road for quite a while now. There still is a secularist movement and its still moving in that country but the seeds had long been planted for this kind of crap and fertilizer hasn't been in short supply for them for quite some time. I'm not a big fan of the Bush Administration but Iran has been a huge problem for decades now and, while their have been grassroots seeds of hope, there isn't anything all that surprising in this. Who's fault is this ... I blame the jihadies and other crapbags in that country. Truth and objectivity aren't all that big when it comes to discussing the West and Israel.

As much as I like Russia they need to get the hell out of that country and stop helping them out with their nuclear and other military desires. They need to get their "advisers" and contractors out of there.

[electorprince.livejournal.com]

No more ours than it was in 1980.

Don't let Iran play you for fools. Anything they get involved with that has to do with Iraq is for purely self-serving reasons. They don't dole out explosives or send fighters across the border because they're doing an "All For Allah" solidarity cause; they're doing it because as long as someone else is sitting in Iraq, Iran can't roll over the weakened border and massacre Arabs to their little Persian hearts' content.

Rafsanjani's failed election campaign wasn't because he was a secularist and because the Coalition had rolled over Iraq; he didn't get elected because he opposed a mullah-backed and proposed reprisal system that would turn Iraq into an Iranian thralldom headed up by militant Shiites to get the revenge that the UN cheated them out of after the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War, where Iraq was the aggressor, got beaten back across the border in 1982, and then Iran struggled for six years to topple Saddam Hussein's government as revenge and didn't succeed. The irony of that scenario was that it was the US who didn't want Iran to win that fight, and most assuredly the Iranians remember that; now it's the US who ousted Saddam, but we're not about to just take our hands off knowing full well that Iraq hasn't got enough left in it to withstand a vengeance-blitz from Iran. Iraq used tabun nerve agent in the Iran-Iraq War; guarantee that Iran will use that as a justification for unspeakable cruelty because no one bothered hitting Iraq with repercussions at the time (Khomeini was despised throughout the world so it was casually ignored by the UN until 1991, when it was finally condemned in resolution 620(1988)).

That knife was sharpened five administrations ago. Trying to pin Iran's turn away from secularism solely on Bush is the height of ignorance.

[kishiriadgr.livejournal.com]

Oh, I haven't been so simplistic a thinker that I'd blame the turn to secularism solely on Bush since I was ten. But it A. gives "legitimacy" to many Muslims and B. destablilized the region to the point that Iranians *can* get into Iraq in order to cause trouble. Did it cause this turn? No. Did it make it far easier? Oh yes.

[kallisti.livejournal.com]

What I find interesting is how at odds the Christian Fundie movement, of which Bushy is a manifestation of, and the Islamist Fundie movement are. I mean, they share so much, belief that their holy book(s) are the exact word of their deity, the rampant anti-semitism, belief that "holy warriors" will recieve a special reward in their respective afterlifes. If it were not for the language differences, it would be easy to mistake one for the other.

I think, at both of their bases, is a belief in a "golden age" that never existed, and a response to the "future shock" of today's rapid rate of change.

ttyl

[kishiriadgr.livejournal.com]

I think this is a mix of apples and oranges. The Bush Administration's wooing of the Christian Right in this country scares the bejoobity out of me and tops my hit parade of reasons I didn't want to see this man back in office. However I have yet to see radical Islam out of Mr. A (I'm not typing that out over and over again), but rather rumbles of wanting a nuclear program that's got the whole world nervous and a more stepped-up hatred of Israel than usual.

But yes, when the US President starts talking about how a president MUST be Christian and that pagan soldiers shouldn't even exist, we should all be scared. This is not right and not what America was meant to be about.

[kishiriadgr.livejournal.com]

Since I know someone is going to call me on this, Bush's comments were made to ABC News in June, 1999. In a comment about paganism being a religion soldiers were recognized as practicing, Bush said that he didn't consider witchcraft a religion and hoped the military would reconsider that decision. Now, there have been wicca rituals (not that all pagans are wiccan; in fact I've known very few wiccans in my time) in chaplaincy manuals for...gad, I think since the 80s. But he sure let the mask slip there.

[shadowcell.livejournal.com]

Bush better thank his *insert breakfast cereal here* for Ahmadinejad. Bush finally has the coalition of countries united against Iran that he never had for Iraq.