lady_kishiria: (horrors!)
ancientjaguar ([personal profile] lady_kishiria) wrote2006-05-30 08:39 pm

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I want to think this is a hoax or a joke, but I have a horrible feeling it's not:

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/5/29/195855/959

Only in the United States. Only in the United States. More on this as I find more out.

Picked up from [profile] khandreia.

[identity profile] kishiriadgr.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
I think you'll find people like [personal profile] garpu, [community profile] glossolalia, [profile] adeodatus and myself have problems with those kinds of priests too. Our answer is to do our best to get such priests expelled and/or put in jail. Even my Sainted Mommy (TM) did a happy dance when Cardinal Law in Boston got fired.

Anyway, the link went down about five minutes after I posted it. Steve found the game on the Left Behind website, so it is real. The question is if it really contains the offensive comment described.

[identity profile] kallisti.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
As you may have noted, I have lots of problems with "End Times" stuff, it's like hardcore porn for Fundies.

As for "those kind" of priests...I wouldn't blame the Church for them if not for the fact that they purposly hid their crimes by shuffling them around parishes, and it was a problem all over, not just Boston. Add to that the incidents in Alfred, Ontario, the residential schools...the decimation of aboriginal cultures the world over...the doctrine that the Jews were responsable for the death of Jesus...The Catholic Church has much to answer for...and make restitution for...but it doesn't make it evil, as the RC Church has also done many good things too...but it needs to change.

Here's part of the story about "my" parish priest, where I used to be an altar boy at St Elisabeth in Ottawa...When he took over as Parish Priest from Fr. Dunnagen, I felt there was something wrong with him, and I quit serving shortly thereafter. That was in the late 1970's. Here is part of a news story about when they finally caught him.

"Fr. Dale Crampton, sentenced to 8 months in 1987 after pleading guilty to indecently assaulting 7 altar boys. After his release from jail at age 51, he served on the marriage tribunal and retired in 1995. His case was one of the first in Canada to see the court order the church to pay $150,000 (Canadian) to his victims after it failed to act on a previous complaint and for not providing the victims with counseling."

One of the few things I agree with my dad about the RC Church is that they *need* to allow priests to marry...it won't prevent scum like Fr. Crampton from becoming priests, but it will help up the number a quickly diminishing quanity of priests, and probably improve the Church's reputation around the world. A friend of the family's is a priest who retired, and got married. He might be serving right now if they allowed marriage for priests.

ttyl

[identity profile] adeodatus.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Even my Sainted Mommy (TM) did a happy dance when Cardinal Law in Boston got fired.

I know its supposed to be a step down for the guy and in theory I can see it but I really wish I could get fired in such a manner. I wouldn't mind being canned and then named archpriest of St. Mary Major Basilica in Rome. It understand he gets a nice monthly stipend and an apartment that has been described as a almost palatial. All with the burden of getting to lead the occasional group of pilgrims to sites across Europe.

Grrr ... that one is still a sore subject for me. I'm not a fan of VOTF but there is good reason to be a bit outraged.

[identity profile] garpu.livejournal.com 2006-05-31 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
You should've been out there when the scandal broke originally. For some reason, I always hear about big events on NPR and Steve, who's up way before me, since I'm jetlagged. (It was 4 a.m. Fork Daylight Saving Time, and Steve (and the very bright thing in the sky they call "the sun" that we don't have in Seattle) woke me up to hear the report. I wasn't a happy camper.)