lady_kishiria: (Kishiria)
ancientjaguar ([personal profile] lady_kishiria) wrote2007-05-12 07:41 am

Sex is to Gender as Hacker is to ______

This is driving me up a wall.

It is SEX discrimination, not GENDER discrimination. That ridiculous 18th-sonogram-for-your-pregnancy determined your baby's SEX not your baby's GENDER. Having the surgery that turns your innie into an outie or vice versa is SEX reassignment, not GENDER reassignment.

Your SEX is what you have in your pants. Your GENDER is the societal role you play, which usually, but does not always or necessarily, coincide.

I admit, it'd be kinda cool to have true gender discrimination. Imagine being able to get the raises that the hot chicks are getting simply by putting on a dress, wearing makeup, and taking your social cues from "Cathy". It'd make much life easier for trannies too, because Becky wouldn't need expensive surgery to become Brian; all she'd have to do is put on a suit and play out the male role. Bingo! Relatively instant change of gender!

If I ever played out my threat to dress my girl baby entirely in blue or my boy baby entirely in pink, would I be arrested for changing my baby's sex without its consent?

I am starting to realize that sex/gender is the social studies equivalent of the hacker/cracker word pair in the computer geek culture. We all know that hackers are not necessarily crackers, and that most aren't, but how many people know or care about that distinction? I still back up those who do, because I like calling things by their properly descriptive names. For instance, if you are one of the aboriginal people of the Americas, I will never call you an Indian unless you've somehow obtained citizenship in a certain Asian sub-continent.

I can tell you why this distinction bothers me so much, and it's because I'm accutely aware that gender is for many people, sometimes my good self included, something you put on, that you wear. To define people entirely by a role that they may only play for a certain number of hours a day is to lack any sort of grasp on who that person actually is.

Of course, this would be easier if we could tear interests, activities, and emotional reactions away from their being assigned to gender roles. I wrote earlier about the Dangerous Book for Boys and Hilary Clinton acting like the worst female stereotype. It wasn't Hilary acting like a "girlfriend" to win votes--that was a drag show.

I really need to wrap all this up; I started thinking about how drag is dependent on clear gender markers and all of a sudden imagined a gang of angry drag queens at my door, fearing extinction. Got to go.

[identity profile] helenkacan.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The only thing that comes to mind is the old joke about filling out a form. Under sex, someone wrote "Yes" or "Not enough".

But, really, I'm wondering if the word did not fall into disfavour precisely because it also does mean teh seks. So the censors axed it. Anyway, that's just my morning meandering. If I were to want to get bent out of shape, I'd start a thread on WHY so many forms need to know WHAT you are. What difference does it make? Exactly.

Simple hugs,
H.

[identity profile] kishiriadgr.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
According to a British site on sex v gender I was reading today, that's precisely why it fell into disfavour. Until the 70s or so, sex was only what was in your pants. There was always a euphemism for what you did with said sex. When sex became the activity as well as the collection of body parts, people got squeamish.

And like you, I wonder why it's on so many forms. On MySpace (yech, phtooey, but it's how I keep track of [profile] prushrush and [profile] electorprince) it determines what dating ads you get, so now I get "treated" to half-naked men in the ads that appear whenever I sign off. >_

[identity profile] garpu.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No disagreement here. I think one of the reasons why I was discouraged from going into composition was because of my sex. That, and "smart" girls don't get married. (Well I wouldn't want to marry someone who was intimidated by me, either.)

[identity profile] napoleonofnerds.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It's because I have weird notions of gender/sex anyway, but I've always had trouble with this distinction. I more or less have a conception of gender that makes me incapable of understanding how someone can consider themselves a woman while having a penis and vice-versa. There are just some things I'll never wrap my head around.

[identity profile] taxlady.livejournal.com 2007-05-12 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm reminded of you saying that you were in drag for my wedding ;)

I have uploaded those photos: here and here.

[identity profile] kishiriadgr.livejournal.com 2007-05-13 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, look at the size of that rear end. I've lost a lot of weight since.

[identity profile] taxlady.livejournal.com 2007-05-13 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
You may have lost weight since then, but it's the dress that makes your bum look big.

[identity profile] shadowcell.livejournal.com 2007-05-13 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
I started thinking about how drag is dependent on clear gender markers and all of a sudden imagined a gang of angry drag queens at my door, fearing extinction.

Say hi to Rudy for me.

=D